As easy as it is to make fun of the whole “lol nothin wrong with dad” plotline in Conquest (and don’t get me wrong it’s super easy), I do also feel like there’s something really valid in there? As cartoonishly obvious as Garon is in his evilness, it’s still fairly realistic to have his kids buried deep in denial about it.
On the one hand, a lot of the Nohr actions seem less based on this and more contrived for drama and Corrin tears.
On the other, I feel like there’s definitely a way to smooth it over in a fandom-interpretive way, and it clicks really well with a lot of the sibling dynamics given. If there’s one thing that really worked for the Nohr siblings, it’s this: they do come off in many supports as shaped logically by their completely fucked upbringing.
So while the circumstances in Birthright especially are kind of ridiculous, it doesn’t feel outlandish to me now that I’ve been stewing it over for a while. If anything, the abrupt “ah yes of course this is not normal” realization Xander especially has on Revelation feels most out of place. (But “Nohr was mostly an afterthought in Revelation” is a post of its own lmao)
Maybe it wouldn’t be so frustrating if there was some similar tension around Hoshido maybe once in a while doing a wrong thing, but I do feel like there’s a way to read the situation that doesn’t boil down to “everyone in Nohr is a fucking idiot.”
I didn’t want to get into this particular Discourse but since you’re bringing it up, *Will Smiths @ the above*
I have a lot to add but the tl;dr is that Conquest is very blatant about the abusive relationships the nohrsibs have grown up with, and internalizing Garon–their biggest abuser, whether he’s in control of his actions or not–as a figure of Ultimate Authority who can’t be questioned, even if they might want to, is pretty textbook. Xander is deepest in denial because Xander has the most memories of a sincerely good father (and, thus, a deeper belief that if Garon is making bad decisions it’s somehow his fault or he’s failing to understand the good intentions behind them, as victims are groomed to do). Elise is the most rebellious (heck, she even JOINS you in Birthright; Sakura doesn’t in Conquest) because her siblings have worked to keep her as sheltered as possible.
Like, yes. The plot is ridiculous. The villains are cartoonish and their decisions are contrived. But it really rubs me the wrong way because unlike Evil Laughter and Dark Dragons and Pointy Multicolored Beards, the nohrsibs’ denial is a real thing that really happens.
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This was such a good meta I actually almost cried. It becomes wearisome to see Xander judged so often, so it makes me...
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